About space deleting, you can fully delete a space. Just delete each page of the space ( see the index of the space to check that) ending with the WebHome of your space (now you shouldn't be able to delete this page until all the other pages of the space are deleted). There shouldn't be any link left in the space menu then. If you still have a link concerning a supposed blank space into it (i guess there is a "?" link next to it), click on it to edit and re-create the WebHome page of this space, then go to the index of this space and delete any page left, as said above. But i agree that simply rename the space would be great :)

No, Nicolas, on the index of the space there is NO means of deleting any pages within the space. I know it says that in the documentation, but it does not exist. There is no way to totally delete a space. Nothing will remove the link to the space either. The WebHome of the space is not deletable by any mechanism in the system, either. At the moment, there is absolutely Nothing, anywhere in the system (accessable to Placeowners), that can be clicked on or edited to delete a space. It would be nice.

@David: when you are in the index of the space, click on a page other than WebHome, and you will be able to delete this page with the DELETE action available in the toolbox panel. After this deletion, display again the index, and choose another page, and do the same (not very efficient :-( but we'll improve this later). Once all the pages except WebHome are deleted, click on the WebHome page, and the DELETE action will appear automatically in the Toolbox to delete also this WebHome page. And after deletion, the space link will disappear from the space panel :-)

Sorry i've not been enough explicit about how to delete a page. I was just talking about the index in order to see what pages needed to be deleted. You of course need to be on the page you want to delete to see the delete link in the toolbox panel. I'm gonna add these informations in the tutorial right now :)

I've added informatin at How to delete a page or a whole space, please David check it and feel free to correct it or add information!

I used the "columns layout" function to move one of the side panels. After I had saved it, I noticed that the "backlinks" panel had disappeared. Grrr. Yes, I know the page warned me that any missing panels would be lost, but I assumed it meant that if I deleted a panel, I couldn't get it back. I didn't take any action to delete anything. (Fortunately, I was able to add backlink functionality to the "MyInformationArea" panel.)

Adding a blog entry with a question mark at the end of the entry name messes up the entry. It can't be directly viewed, edited or deleted. The problem is with the generation of the view links - it leaves off the "%3F" (hex for question mark).

WORKAROUND: don't use special characters at the end of an entry name.

Update: it turns out that using creative manual URL editing, they can be deleted. Just add %3F to the end of the name part and replace the "edit" with "delete".

Update to losing the "backlinks" page: as I learned from the Netcipia tutorials, I was able to use "preferences" -> "skins" to recover the built-in backlinks panel. I like that method better than the "drag-and-drop" method anyway (being a vi kinda guy).

Minor issue - when you look at the "last modified" line at the bottom, it has the date of the last comment but the "modify by" name is the page owner, not the last comment author. (For example, see the bottom of this page.) It does the same thing with the page history also. I assume this is an xwiki issue, not a Netcipia issue.

Less minor issue - I've sent two communications to Netcipia about three weeks ago. One was a request to be a member of this "participation" space and the other was an e-mail asking about archiving/backing up. No response. This leads me to suspect that Netcipia might be a nice "playground" but isn't a hosting service that we can rely on. Pity. I would be willing to make significant donations regularly if I thought I could count on the place.

Hi Steve, thanks for all your feedbacks, but relating the emails you sent on june 9, Mike answered you on June 10, I have checked! So there must be a problem of communication. Please check your anti-spam filter, perhaps his messages are still there...

About your backup question, Mike answered the following:

Currently there is no backup available for users, but we are close to release a export feature to allow our users to backup by themselves their content. And it will be free :-)

And about the wrong price you mentioned, Mike answered you the following:

Thank you :-) we have corrected it

Don't worry about our hosting service, we are delivering it since august 2006, and in the past we delivered this kind of service for more than 6 years. So we'll do the same for Netcipia :-) We have still some occasional problems during this beta period, but a lot of professionals are using our services on a daily basis. During the summer, we'll continue to improve services and our reliability.

Thank you for your confidence :-)

HAHAHA!!! I owe you and Mike an apology. You did indeed get caught in my spam filter, but not where I expected. You ended up in the VIRUS section! Why? It's my own filter, and I've found a HUGE correlation with any message that is from "sford@geeky-boy.com". But yours was from mike@netsipia.com, why did it get flagged as a virus? Embedded in the e-mail was my original, which WAS listed as from sford@geeky-boy.com. My checker saw that second "from" address and flagged it.

Anyway, I totally withdraw my complaint. The xwiki system is still annoying at times, but Netcipia looks to be an excellent service.

P.S. - I updated http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Wiki_Science:How_to_start_a_Wiki with your new price.

When creating sub-sections (using 1.1, etc), the toc macro doesn't produce a usable table of contents - i.e. when you click the links it doesn't send you the appropriate sub-section. I assume this is a problem in xwiki, not netcipia.

Yes, the future XWiki 1.0 version solve this problem.

WYSIWYG editor makes some unintended changes. Switching between Wiki editor and WYSIWYG often results in: a) weird line breaks b) loss of special characters c) weird additional backslash characters d) odd formatting of tables

2 more bugs: 1) Members Panel: The 'Invite New Member' link on the Members panel links to Wikiliki instead of Netcipia.

2) You don't seem to be able to re-invite a member (say they accidentally deleted an email) which means you have to delete them and then re-send the invitation.

And another one, sorry!

If you put a link to a web page with spaces in the name e.g. http://ocha.unog.ch/humanitarianreform/Portals/1/cluster%20approach%20page/Introduction/IASCGUIDANCENOTECLUSTERAPPROACH.pdf the WYSIWYG editor replaces the /%20 character with a space and then decides that the weblink address finishes at the first space. This is causing me real problems when I'm trying to put in footnotes.

Members panel invitation link is fixed. You cannot reinvite a member, but if he has deleted his email, you can now notify him directly to send him the information you want. And if he has lost his password, he goes to the log-in screen and clik on "forget your password" link to have a new one generated. But it could be a good idea to be able to renotify a member directly from the members list :-)

About the link problem, for the moment replace %20 by + as a workaround.

Ongoing problem with editing pages. Even if set for opening in WYSIWYG, sometimes the page randomly opens in the Wiki editor. When changing back to WYSIWYG the following problems occur:

a) Random backslashes at the end of a title b) random line breaks c) sometimes text even disappears d) bullets sometimes turn into bold text

It would be great if the page would look the same no matter what editor it has been edited in.

When you set the edition mode as "WYSIWYG" the page is still opened in "WIKI" edition mode if some special caracters are detected within content, such as HTML code (it's a kind of "advanced mode"). If you notice this "switch" in another context, that's not good and we do have to solve it, so please let it me know.

About problem when switching from one mode to another, we are working hard on this. Having a reliable editor is one of our main concern.

When clicking on 'print' I would like to be able to print the comments on a page. Is this possible.

I would also like to collate all comments made into one page so I can get an overview of what people are saying about different chapters of a book. Is this possible?

More WYSIWYG problems. Random deletion of text inserted as numbered list (I spent nearly 20 minutes trying to get 6 numbered paragraphs to show up.

Also, inserting footnote at end of a bullet-listed line means footnote shows up on next paragraph.

… and now my sidebars randomly displaying on normal pages in Wiki form i.e. actually displaying as [1-Introduction>Main.1 Introduction] instead of showing a link

Table macro doesn't make it easy to decide table positioning or size.

Need to be able to link to an attachment uploaded on to a different page with the link tool.

It is now possible to address the attachment of another page adding the "document=" tag to the "attach" macro. See the advanced wiki syntax for more details.

Jon, if you could send the detail and context of the different bugs you can find through the contact form of our website it will be more efficient for us to manage them, we have a special database for this purpose. Thanks again for all your feedback :-)

The direct link the "attach" macro description: http://www.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Code/AttachMacro

Can anyone tell me how to change the space name? When I an renaming the space it renames the spacename.webhome page not my spacename. I am having xwiki-web-standard-1.1.1.

Hi Netcipia (even if based on XWiki) is not supporting yet the rename feature. You should ask your question on the xwiki users mailing list:

users mailing list: users@xwiki.org
http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/users

The fact that Netcipia interprets two hyphens (--) as code for strikethrough creates a problem because two hyphens is the standard representation of the an em-dash (and typing two hyphens automatically creates an em-dash in Word), the kind that sets off parenthetical information within sentences. I use this punctuation a lot. I found that I can prevent this from being interpreted as code for strikethrough by using { pre } { /pre } but that is an annoying extra step.

Deletion of spaces issue again.. I've removed all self-created pages in the space (so that WebHome is the last, which, when removed, effectively deletes the space). But I'm getting the following error when trying to delete the WebPreferences page of a space:

Wrong user name

Error number 3203 in 3: Exception while deleting document ExampleSpace.WebPreferences Wrapped Exception: Batch update returned unexpected row count from update: 0 actual row count: 0 expected: 1

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